Its like telling Mac users that OS X should be made to run on very cheap Dell, or telling Windows users that Microsoft should adopt the Apple HIG. We don’t want outsiders messing things up. Because usually, those comments are made by people who do not use Linux as their primary desktop, and don’t “get it.” We have our interests too. When people make comments like “KDE and GNOME need to unify” or “we need to get rid of X” Linux users get defensive, and justifiably so. ![]() PS2> Of course, there is a difference attacking and being defensive. Again, its just a small contingent of users that are bohemians. All the Linux users I know in person are extremely curteous and friendly when talking with people who may be thinking of Linux but haven’t made the jump. Just take a look at the civilized discussion on or. On Linux boards, we don’t spend all our time making digs at Windows and Mac. PS> Although, the attitude is less prevalent than you’d think. You’ve got immature people with nothing better to do in all camps. Note how heated the discussion gets whenever Mac vs Windows comes up. You get that with any computer community. Sure, use it on the desktop but on the server? good lord no. ![]() With all these great offerings, I can’t work it out for the love of me why a person would use Windows on the server. SUN has a great solution using their full suite which covers EVERYTHING exchange offers, from scheduling to instant messaging, then there is Lotus Notes, IMHO, the only thing that I found that really sucks is pop3, however, since I am an IMAP man, it is a none issue, as for Groupwise, if you want a server with minimum fuss and bother, it is an awsome piece of software. One client and the ability to communicate with different vendor offerings. Well for me, he lost all credibility when he said that “Exchange is the industry standard”, sorry, it isn’t and Microsoft is going to suffer once there is a Notes plugin for Evolution. He could simply state those problems, as many of them DO exist, if he wasn’t just trolling. If an app is 5 years behind (some of them haven’t even been developed for 5 years), then there has to be MAJOR problems with it. It also lacks many of the templates and script libraries than Dreamweaver has- you won’t beleive how widely these are used. Quanta – GREAT webdevelopment app – is it as good as Dreamweaver? not yet– quanta lacks Dreamweaver’s visual mode, which is what is used 90% of the time by people who use Dreamweaver. I tried the newest unstable GIMP and my tablet did not work even after much frustration. Gimp – GREAT painting app – is it as good as Photoshop? not yet– PS has an interface atuned for artists, has thousands of plugins available, and nearly every graphics tablet works for it. I give it five years or less to catchup (and hopefully GNOME gets merged in to it too, I don’t care which one does the merging, but KDE seems to be much ahead in features in being a “complete” desktop from what I’ve seen) niche in terms of apps meant for individual professions and hobbies. KDE – GREAT desktop enviornment – is it as good as windows? not yet– there isn’t many niche apps created for it. I just might yet switch to Linux, but I really don’t see it happening in less than five years or so.Įvolution – GREAT groupware app– is it as good as outlook? not yet– just not as a complete solution as outlook is- outlook is- Outlook has 100% compatability with the industry standard (Exchange), whle Evolution has compatability with certain Exchange configurations, but only as an add on pack. But, KDE and Epiphany are really quite nice projects, and I wish them all the luck in the future. There is almost nothing I can do in Linux that I can’t do in Windows, therefore there really isn’t any reason for me to switch at the moment. GNOME 2.4 feels in many ways similiar to GNOME 1.2 (quite incomplete as a whole solution) but it’s web browser, Epiphany, is most excellent– it’s probably the best dang web browser I’ve *ever* used.Īm I going to switch away from Windows however? Absolutely not. ![]() ![]() A LOT has changed in three years, especially with KDE 3.2 beta1- it’s user interface was quite powerful and an absolute joy to use. I installed a copy of Debian and installed unofficial copies of GNOME 2.4 and KDE 3.2 beta1, and *wow* am I impressed. The last time I used Linux was around 2000– it was RedHat 6.0 running KDE 2.1 and GNOME 1.2 I think. The last time I used Linux was three years ago, and upon advice of a friend, I tried it again a few days ago. I am a Windows developer by day (I make Windows drivers for a certain scanner company), and a Windows user by night. The rate of change of the linux desktop is phenominal.
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